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Real estate market now requires 'patient money'

Boom years gone, multiproperty investors become more businesslike

02/18/2008

By Timothy J. Gibbons / Times-Union

The handwritten sign flaps at the foot of the Mathews Bridge, letting drivers know that Mitch Katsacos "will buy your house today."

Not everyone's house, of course: Of the 60 or so responses his signs might generate in a week, two or three callers might offer the right combination of circumstances and property for him to make an offer.

But that's enough to make it worthwhile. "It's all about finding out what fits," Katsacos said.

Signs like Katsacos' might not in themselves seem unusual: Three years ago, "cash for your house" signs abounded, stuck into every grassy median and stapled to every light pole.

What's unusual is that signs like that - that investors like Katsacos - still exist. For some entrepreneurs, though, real estate investing continues to be a viable business, albeit one that offers greater challenges and requires a new approach to the process.

The housing market peaked in 2005 and began to soften, slowing in 2006 and crashing down in 2007. Prices of homes, both locally and nationally, have dropped significantly, as has the number of homes being sold. Exacerbating the situation is a record number of foreclosures, which has created ripple effects throughout the rest of the economy.

An altered landscape

The real estate investment industry is but a shadow of what it was three or four years ago, when seminars and gurus abounded and everybody and their brother-in-law claimed to be getting rich in real estate.

Most of the people who posted those signs are gone now, gone along with their signs: bank accounts emptied by having to pay off homes that dropped in value, credit ratings ruined by foreclosures and bankruptcies.

Although scams abound, most of those left in the market aren't the flippers of the boom years, the type who often used 100 percent mortgages to buy rapidly appreciating homes that they would sell within weeks, making thousands in the process.

Successful investing now requires patience, deep pockets and more work, according to a range of experts who watch the industry, as well as people still involved in real estate.

"I'd much rather be out there trying to get the deals that are there now than a year ago," said Sid Rosenberg, a real estate professor at the University of North Florida. "For people with patient money, this is a great opportunity."

Boom years go bye-bye

For real estate investors in general, making money during the boom could be easy. With house prices continually rising, an investor in the right area could see the value of a piece of property jump by thousands during the couple of weeks a renovation took or in the months between placing a deposit on a new home and having the structure completed.

The goal then was quick cash for little work, with much of the profit generated by the seemingly inexorable growth in property values.

One industry veteran remembers having lunch with an investor looking to sell a house in Fort Lauderdale who was hoping that a scheduled closing would be called off, allowing the house to continue to appreciate.

"That's not the way it's supposed to work," said John Hayes, chief executive officer of HomeVestors, a company focused on home "recycling" - franchisees of the company buy houses in need of repair, fix them up and either sell or rent them.

During the heady boom years, few things worked the way they were supposed to, it appears in retrospect.

Shady investors abounded, lying on mortgage applications to get larger payouts, taking on crushing levels of debt and speculating like crazy.

Even some legal strategies could get investors in trouble. Buyers who paid less for a property than its appraised value could borrow based on the full price, pulling out the equity value, usually to invest that money in other properties.

"The guys who really got hurt," said Edward Malone, a small investor who survived the crash, "were the ones who pulled it out to buy cars and clothes."

Most of those people lost their shirt - and perhaps the cars as well - when the bottom fell out of the market.

Those who survived had a stronger cash flow, a better business model and probably a bit of luck.

Timing can be crucial

Malone, a Navy officer who has been in Jacksonville for six years, fell into the industry when he started buying and selling properties in 2005. After making his first sale, he bought two more houses, one to live in and one to rehab, ending up renting the second one.

He was burned once, he said, when he had to drop the asking price of a house that had been sitting for too long - a property he just now has a buyer about to close on - but managed to keep the side business ticking along, even during a deployment to Iraq.

Luck played a bit of a role when the crash came, with Malone having sold or rented out his properties before prices started dropping.

He now has five houses in his portfolio, with two on the market, although he's considering trying to rent them out if they don't sell soon.

The key to continued success, Malone said, is a good credit score and healthy cash flow.

"It's huge," he said. "For anyone looking at the real estate market, you either have firm credit or money in the bank."

Focusing on fixer-uppers

Malone helps keep his cash flow healthy by doing much of the remodeling work with business partner David McNeil, enabling them to keep the costs low.

"You've got to make it look good," McNeil said. "I make it look like somewhere I'd want to live."

High-quality rehabs are vital in this real estate economy, agreed Mark Coon, who started buying and selling homes as the housing bubble inflated.

"You have to adjust for a changing market," he said.

Coon has always focused on fixer-uppers: He began buying often-dilapidated proprieties about six years ago, when he moved to Jacksonville after signing up for a franchise with HomeVestors, the company with the ubiquitous "We Buy Ugly Houses" billboards.

Coon came across the company while working at a boutique investment bank in West Florida and was impressed enough to pay around $35,000 for the franchise when the bank shut down following the dot-com bust.

The company's model focuses on finding houses that can be picked up cheap, usually for 60 percent of what it could be resold for. The seller is willing to drop the price either because of the condition of the house itself - it needs a lot of work before it can go on the market - or because the seller is in a situation ranging from divorce to looming foreclosure to a job transfer that pushes them to get rid of the house quickly.

Home buyers get more selective

During the boom years, selling was easy, although buying cheap could be hard. That's turned around now, where a buyers' market means picking up discounted houses is far easier than unloading them once they're de-uglified.

"People are still buying houses," Coon said, "but they're getting much more selective. Now your house has to be the best looking at the best price. Just pricing a house cheap isn't going to get it sold."

And the old real estate saw about location, location, location hasn't changed, either.

"Is there retail activity in the area?" is one of the questions Coon said he asks. "That's not going to change just because we buy houses there."

In many areas, the shrinking number of people who want to - or, with stricter lending standards in place, are able to - buy houses has led Coon to change the way he sells the houses he buys.

"There's a whole pool of buyers who are gone," he said.

The major exit strategy for Coon, now, is to sell the properties to other investors, many of whom rent out the properties once they're fixed up. (The rental market is expected to boom this year, as foreclosed-upon homeowners return to the rental market for their shelter needs. HomeVestor recently started its first national ad campaign targeting such investors.)

It's about the business

Katsacos, who owns his own company, MillenniumPropertySolutions.com, is aiming at a similar target.

The Ponte Vedra Beach businessman got into real estate by building a portfolio of rental properties, looking to build wealth for retirement. Some of the houses he planned on turning around and selling have become part of that portfolio, but he was able to off load most of the properties he bought during the boom times.

Other investors got burned, he said, because they were so focused on the quick cash, they forgot they were running a business.

"There's a lot of people who got into this business without a lot of business acumen," he said. "It's so easy to get into the real estate business, and it sounds great, but like any other business, it's tough."

In the past six months, he's turned toward the wholesale market: Rather than fixing up houses himself and then playing landlord, he's looking to act as a sort of middleman, selling the properties to investors who will either rent them or sell them.

And investors are responding to his signs just like property owners do, he said. Sometimes the investors are calling for help in getting rid of properties they paid too much for in the boom years, but more and more he's hearing from people who are looking to buy houses.

"Investors are always looking to make money," he said.

And that's something some people - careful people, people with patient money, people with a plan - will continue to be able to do in real estate, Katsacos said.

"Everything goes in cycles," he said. "In the long run, prices will be up. "